Comments on: On Localization: Why need a Vietnamese Twitter-like? http://www.fresco20.com/on-localization-why-need-a-vietnamese-twitter-like/ Anh Hung on Web and Open Source Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:25:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: AnhHung http://www.fresco20.com/on-localization-why-need-a-vietnamese-twitter-like/comment-page-1/#comment-629 AnhHung Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:34:18 +0000 http://www.fresco20.com/?p=504#comment-629 @epi_longo: You can refer to Dan's point on Twitter's business model. @dshupp: You should check http://me.ola.vn out, it's much better than Saigonica. I think a good solution to "global visibility" would be a mechanism which allows one's tweet to go to both Vietnamese clones and Twitter AND replies from Twitter and the clones to appear in the same @replies page. Would this be a better option than having the clone integrated into Twitter? @Clarious: I think that's the problem with all microblogging services. In order to catch up in Vietnam, the clone has to undergo the same slow take-off phase as that of Twitter. However, Twitter's increasing popularity IMHO is due to lots of free PR from many sources, and the amazing number of applications/clients built around it. If the clones cannot do this, I think their chances of success are pretty slim. @clarious @epi_longo: You can refer to Dan’s point on Twitter’s business model.

@dshupp: You should check http://me.ola.vn out, it’s much better than Saigonica.

I think a good solution to “global visibility” would be a mechanism which allows one’s tweet to go to both Vietnamese clones and Twitter AND replies from Twitter and the clones to appear in the same @replies page. Would this be a better option than having the clone integrated into Twitter?

@Clarious: I think that’s the problem with all microblogging services. In order to catch up in Vietnam, the clone has to undergo the same slow take-off phase as that of Twitter. However, Twitter’s increasing popularity IMHO is due to lots of free PR from many sources, and the amazing number of applications/clients built around it. If the clones cannot do this, I think their chances of success are pretty slim.

@clarious

]]> By: clarious http://www.fresco20.com/on-localization-why-need-a-vietnamese-twitter-like/comment-page-1/#comment-624 clarious Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:01:10 +0000 http://www.fresco20.com/?p=504#comment-624 The question remains: How many Vietnamese will know, not to say use, about it? No matter how hard I try to convince people to use twitter, I am still the only one who use twitter in my list of 120+ users in yahoo. The question remains: How many Vietnamese will know, not to say use, about it?

No matter how hard I try to convince people to use twitter, I am still the only one who use twitter in my list of 120+ users in yahoo.

]]> By: Dan http://www.fresco20.com/on-localization-why-need-a-vietnamese-twitter-like/comment-page-1/#comment-621 Dan Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:30:28 +0000 http://www.fresco20.com/?p=504#comment-621 I agree that you'll get much more out of twitter by using it your native language...no reason to restrict yourself! Choose your own communities, by language, topic, people, whatever is interesting :) The question to me is, why is a clone necessary rather than just using Twitter in Vietnamese? IMO, a clone is only a needed if A) a viable business model emerges for a microblogging network & B) that model can be applied to a network with 10-20m users max & C) Vietnam's online market is willing to spend its dollars on whatever that business model is. My hope is that Saigoni.ca and the rest find a way to integrate with twitter, since the microblogging networks are really just utilities like SMS and the telephone system...in the long run twitter is hoping that by owning the network of people (and their data, i.e. past tweets), that they can control whatever services get built on top and profit from them. I agree that you’ll get much more out of twitter by using it your native language…no reason to restrict yourself! Choose your own communities, by language, topic, people, whatever is interesting :)

The question to me is, why is a clone necessary rather than just using Twitter in Vietnamese? IMO, a clone is only a needed if A) a viable business model emerges for a microblogging network & B) that model can be applied to a network with 10-20m users max & C) Vietnam’s online market is willing to spend its dollars on whatever that business model is.

My hope is that Saigoni.ca and the rest find a way to integrate with twitter, since the microblogging networks are really just utilities like SMS and the telephone system…in the long run twitter is hoping that by owning the network of people (and their data, i.e. past tweets), that they can control whatever services get built on top and profit from them.

]]> By: ePi.Longo http://www.fresco20.com/on-localization-why-need-a-vietnamese-twitter-like/comment-page-1/#comment-620 ePi.Longo Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:01:31 +0000 http://www.fresco20.com/?p=504#comment-620 I don't agree with you bout the prob of profit. They (twitter) are finding the model of profit and at least they can use ads as a traditional and can't-be-denied model. But I do agree with you on Language & Cultural aspects. But we need to talk more bout the Cultural and find out exactly what we need to talk under this umbrella. I don’t agree with you bout the prob of profit. They (twitter) are finding the model of profit and at least they can use ads as a traditional and can’t-be-denied model. But I do agree with you on Language & Cultural aspects. But we need to talk more bout the Cultural and find out exactly what we need to talk under this umbrella.

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